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The Singh paper was yet another study where an apparently decent
scientist proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that she couldn’t find XMRV
in anyone. Or at least that she couldn’t find a VP62 plasmid clone in
any CFS patients or controls. But since she did not use a human isolate
as a positive control, her results are meaningless. She also proved
again that a test derived from monkey antibodies to a VP62 clone doesn’t
detect anything in humans. What she didn’t prove is that XMRV and other
similar viruses are not infecting humans and she certainly didn’t prove
anything that doctors or patients should care about with respect to
their treatment decisions. That she would presume to comment is
outrageous.
It hurts more because she seemed to be our friend. I met her in Reno
last August. She was very excited by our responses to antiretrovirals,
chosen because of her in vitro drug testing paper. Interesting that she
was able to find XMRV in human tissue when she was studying prostate
cancer in 2009 (
XMRV
is present in malignant prostatic epithelium and is associated with
prostate cancer, especially high-grade tumors. Schlaberg/Singh)
. Odd
that she so recently applied for a broad patent with respect to the
virus. Then she stabs the WPI, a collaborator, in the back. Very
peculiar behavior. My best guess? Follow the money.
In my opinion, the scientific community is still asking the wrong
questions. It is important to validate the original work of course, but
that is a very small part of what needs to happen. Given that it is
obvious from the pathology that we are dealing with one or more
previously unrecognized retroviruses, most likely simple animal
retroviruses that jumped to humans in some way, the correct question is,
which virus or viruses? Not how do we make this one go away so we can
all go back on coffee break, rather than recognize the public health
disaster in front of our noses. Pretty poor performance, even for
government work.
Since the science is progressing glacially, it is not possible for me to
evaluate what antiretrovirals are doing for me now, having taken Viread
and Isentress for more than 14 months. However, I am approaching 90% of
function this week, still in Hawaii. I have been out every day, most of
the day, for 12 days. I went snorkeling (a little). I have walked up
some steep hills. I have had no PEM. Only very brief episodes of feeling
sick, which are not severe and pass quickly. I am eating, sleeping,
dreaming normally. I am not short of breath at rest, or even with
reasonable exertion. I am very deconditioned, but feel like I can start a
measured program to get back in shape. I am choosing upright and the
usual energy calculation that runs through my head when I think about
whether to get up or not isn’t happening.
I do think it likely that this latest improvement has something to do
with the change in altitude; I became polycythemic when I moved to Santa
Fe, which is at 7500 feet. I could exercise and was never short of
breath without appropriate exertion before that. It will be interesting
to see how I do when I go home this week. It may be that going back up
will be good too, due to epo which is anti-inflammatory. Athletes know
that going up and down is the hot ticket. I’ve been thinking about
transitioning to the islands since I left in 1981, but never seemed to
be able to make it happen. Our son is finishing up the 11th grade, doing
really well, and we are committed to keeping our home in Santa Fe at
least until he graduates. But life is full of possibilities again beyond
the bed and the couch. My life has improved immeasurably from the
positive XMRV culture I received from VIP Dx a year ago January.
Sleep architecture is an important indicator of severity of illness in
ME/CFS, certainly for me, but for many others as well. I had been
sleeping better for some time before this trip, so the improvement I’m
experiencing isn’t all from palm trees and tropical air. It is hard for
me, currently beating the odds (knock on wood), to believe that
antiretrovirals are hurting me. Though it is possible that I have
improved further from going off AZT, I still believe that it helped me
in the beginning. It should be remembered that an efficacious treatment
paradigm may turn out to be completely different from what has evolved
for HIV. It may be possible to take antiretrovirals for a time to knock
it back, clean out reservoirs, in conjunction with other things that are
conducive to proviral latency. Even inhibiting replication, provirus is
sitting there silent, or waving in the breeze. Our knowledge of HIV
suggests there are things we can do to encourage latency. Our
observation of the disease over decades has taught us that the balance
can be tipped in our favor in various ways. Working with the internal
and external environments is crucial for recovery.
As for Dr. Singh’s desire to practice clinical medicine? I guess she
thinks this patient should not be allowed to continue his meds. From my
email this morning:
I tested positive for XMRV. I have been taking zidovudine,
tenofovir, and raltegravir for just over 5 months. I started over a 2
1/2 month period and I was on all three by January. Since the end of
January, I have experienced very short periods of unmistakable clarity
and no symptoms (much more pronounced compared to any period of reduced
symptoms that I may have experienced in the past twelve years that I
have been ill).
I wish I could report that Ali is doing as
well as I am. She didn’t change noticeably one way or the other from
stopping AZT. She is in no way as sick as she was when we started this
journey. She is stable, but still just below the surface. She has been
having some MCS symptoms recently. We are going to step it up again,
considering mild HBOT, Meyer’s cocktail/glutathione IV’s and possibly
Nexavir. Ali has inflammatory skin stuff and Nexavir is indicated for
skin problems; always good if a therapeutic option addresses more than
one problem. She only needs a small additional increment of improvement
to be able to get a life again. She is hoping to experience Hawaii too.
Neither of us would stop the things that have helped, Actos, Deplin,
B12, vitamin D, bioidentical hormones. Nor do we have any inclination to
stop antiretrovirals, certainly not on Dr. Singh’s say so. We have done
too well on them so far to rock that boat. We need to keep building on
our gains.
By Doctor Deckoff Jones,
http://treatingxmrv.blogspot.com/2011/05/shell-game.html
The Singh paper was yet another study where an apparently decent
scientist proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that she couldn’t find XMRV
in anyone. Or at least that she couldn’t find a VP62 plasmid clone in
any CFS patients or controls. But since she did not use a human isolate
as a positive control, her results are meaningless. She also proved
again that a test derived from monkey antibodies to a VP62 clone doesn’t
detect anything in humans. What she didn’t prove is that XMRV and other
similar viruses are not infecting humans and she certainly didn’t prove
anything that doctors or patients should care about with respect to
their treatment decisions. That she would presume to comment is
outrageous.
It hurts more because she seemed to be our friend. I met her in Reno
last August. She was very excited by our responses to antiretrovirals,
chosen because of her in vitro drug testing paper. Interesting that she
was able to find XMRV in human tissue when she was studying prostate
cancer in 2009 (
XMRV
is present in malignant prostatic epithelium and is associated with
prostate cancer, especially high-grade tumors. Schlaberg/Singh)
. Odd
that she so recently applied for a broad patent with respect to the
virus. Then she stabs the WPI, a collaborator, in the back. Very
peculiar behavior. My best guess? Follow the money.
In my opinion, the scientific community is still asking the wrong
questions. It is important to validate the original work of course, but
that is a very small part of what needs to happen. Given that it is
obvious from the pathology that we are dealing with one or more
previously unrecognized retroviruses, most likely simple animal
retroviruses that jumped to humans in some way, the correct question is,
which virus or viruses? Not how do we make this one go away so we can
all go back on coffee break, rather than recognize the public health
disaster in front of our noses. Pretty poor performance, even for
government work.
Since the science is progressing glacially, it is not possible for me to
evaluate what antiretrovirals are doing for me now, having taken Viread
and Isentress for more than 14 months. However, I am approaching 90% of
function this week, still in Hawaii. I have been out every day, most of
the day, for 12 days. I went snorkeling (a little). I have walked up
some steep hills. I have had no PEM. Only very brief episodes of feeling
sick, which are not severe and pass quickly. I am eating, sleeping,
dreaming normally. I am not short of breath at rest, or even with
reasonable exertion. I am very deconditioned, but feel like I can start a
measured program to get back in shape. I am choosing upright and the
usual energy calculation that runs through my head when I think about
whether to get up or not isn’t happening.
I do think it likely that this latest improvement has something to do
with the change in altitude; I became polycythemic when I moved to Santa
Fe, which is at 7500 feet. I could exercise and was never short of
breath without appropriate exertion before that. It will be interesting
to see how I do when I go home this week. It may be that going back up
will be good too, due to epo which is anti-inflammatory. Athletes know
that going up and down is the hot ticket. I’ve been thinking about
transitioning to the islands since I left in 1981, but never seemed to
be able to make it happen. Our son is finishing up the 11th grade, doing
really well, and we are committed to keeping our home in Santa Fe at
least until he graduates. But life is full of possibilities again beyond
the bed and the couch. My life has improved immeasurably from the
positive XMRV culture I received from VIP Dx a year ago January.
Sleep architecture is an important indicator of severity of illness in
ME/CFS, certainly for me, but for many others as well. I had been
sleeping better for some time before this trip, so the improvement I’m
experiencing isn’t all from palm trees and tropical air. It is hard for
me, currently beating the odds (knock on wood), to believe that
antiretrovirals are hurting me. Though it is possible that I have
improved further from going off AZT, I still believe that it helped me
in the beginning. It should be remembered that an efficacious treatment
paradigm may turn out to be completely different from what has evolved
for HIV. It may be possible to take antiretrovirals for a time to knock
it back, clean out reservoirs, in conjunction with other things that are
conducive to proviral latency. Even inhibiting replication, provirus is
sitting there silent, or waving in the breeze. Our knowledge of HIV
suggests there are things we can do to encourage latency. Our
observation of the disease over decades has taught us that the balance
can be tipped in our favor in various ways. Working with the internal
and external environments is crucial for recovery.
As for Dr. Singh’s desire to practice clinical medicine? I guess she
thinks this patient should not be allowed to continue his meds. From my
email this morning:
I tested positive for XMRV. I have been taking zidovudine,
tenofovir, and raltegravir for just over 5 months. I started over a 2
1/2 month period and I was on all three by January. Since the end of
January, I have experienced very short periods of unmistakable clarity
and no symptoms (much more pronounced compared to any period of reduced
symptoms that I may have experienced in the past twelve years that I
have been ill).
I wish I could report that Ali is doing as
well as I am. She didn’t change noticeably one way or the other from
stopping AZT. She is in no way as sick as she was when we started this
journey. She is stable, but still just below the surface. She has been
having some MCS symptoms recently. We are going to step it up again,
considering mild HBOT, Meyer’s cocktail/glutathione IV’s and possibly
Nexavir. Ali has inflammatory skin stuff and Nexavir is indicated for
skin problems; always good if a therapeutic option addresses more than
one problem. She only needs a small additional increment of improvement
to be able to get a life again. She is hoping to experience Hawaii too.
Neither of us would stop the things that have helped, Actos, Deplin,
B12, vitamin D, bioidentical hormones. Nor do we have any inclination to
stop antiretrovirals, certainly not on Dr. Singh’s say so. We have done
too well on them so far to rock that boat. We need to keep building on
our gains.